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Poor quality of students entering IITs: Narayana Murthy

Infosys Technology Chief Mentor NR Narayana Murthy - AFP
Infosys Technology Chief Mentor NR Narayana Murthy - AFP

Voicing his displeasure over the quality of engineers that pass out of the IITs, Infosys chairman emeritus N. R. Narayana Murthy has said there is a need to overhaul the selection criteria for students seeking admission to the prestigious technology institutions.

Addressing a gathering of hundreds of former IITians at a 'Pan IIT' summit here, Murthy said the quality of students entering Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) has deteriorated over the years due to the coaching classes that prepare engineering aspirants.

He said the majority of the students fare poorly at jobs and global institutions of higher education. "Thanks to the coaching classes today, the quality of students entering IITs has gone lower and lower," Murthy said, receiving a thundering applause from his audience.

He said apart from the top 20 per cent of students who crack the tough IIT entrance examination and can "stand among the best anywhere in the world," quality of the remaining 80 per cent of students leave much to be desired.

Coaching classes teach aspirants limited sets of problems, out of which a few are asked in the examinations. "They somehow get through the joint entrance examination. But their performance in IITs, at jobs or when they come for higher education in institutes in the US is not as good as it used to be. "This has to be corrected. A new method of selection of students to IITs has to be arrived at."

Drawing a road map to put IITs among the top engineering institutes in the world, Murthy said it has to be ensured that IITs ‘transcend from being just teaching institutions to reasonably good research institutes’ at par with Harvard and MIT in the next 10-20 years.

"Few IITs have done well in producing PhDs but in reality when we compare ourselves to institutions in this country, we have a long way to go," he said. More emphasis has to be given to research at the undergraduate level and examinations should test independent thinking of students rather than their ability to solve problems.

Murthy said in order to produce good research at IITs, the Indian government has to be persuaded to create institutions that fund research projects. In addition, faculty members should also be evaluated annually on their research performance by an independent committee, Murthy said adding that India must shift from the tenure system for its faculty to a five year contractual appointment system.

The Infosys mentor also lamented the poor English speaking and social skills of a majority of IIT students, saying with Indian politicians ‘rooting against English’, the task of getting good English speaking students at IITs gets more difficult. "

An IITian has to be a global citizen and must understand where the globe is going," he added. Murthy also stressed the need to have the governing council of IITs made up of its alumni. The only way IITs can become better is if 80-90 per cent of members on their governing council are alumni.

"Nobody is bothered about an institution more than its alumni. We must somehow persuade the government of India to let go of its control and make sure majority of the council members is the IIT alumni."

Murthy urged IITians spread across the globe to work with their alma mater to ensure that IITs are among the top 10 engineering schools of the world. He said while only a couple of IITs feature in the top 50, there should be at least five IITs in the top 10 engineering schools in the world in the next 10-20 years, he added.

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Priyanka 04/10/2011 - 11:21pm

In a country like India where the essential items of day today life are hard in supply, is it any wonder the quality of education is bound to suffer also.

We only achieved independence a little while ago oh what about seventy years?

NM has no right to slander the students he is not part of the academic movement in India. All they do is create a talent pool for service industry . There is no innovation there.

If they want they can make advancements in a lot of fields that actually help people like the medical field with better pacemakers and dialysis machine, but are they doing that no.

What IT companies want is cheap labour with advanced knowledge in coding.

Knowing how to code in .Net is not going to propel India into to the next Green Revolution or White Revolution.

Become an Indian first then think about a global citizen

Pramod 04/10/2011 - 04:30pm

I guess this statement might be true .

Consider we are having almost 40 % of Schedule Cast Quota and where as for open category there are only maximum of 60 % seats are available.

Open category : GATE score at least 95% above will get the admission.
Schedule Cast Category : i guess passing marks are also worth to get the admission.

after the passed out candidates from IIT . Open category people get good jobs with Google , microsoft and other compnies.

Schedule cast are remaining for Infy and others...

Dont u agree on this.

WITAN 04/10/2011 - 11:45am

Mr Murthy has stated one of the reasons for the decline. If one takes a holistic view, the gestalt reason is the very concept of IITs as distinct from universities and outside the university system. The mandate of IITs was development of TECHNOLOGY, not SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. However, when the first IITs came into existence, they functioned more or less like universities and concentrated on disseminating and creating KNOWLEDGE and not on TECNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT. With the passing of years, the zeal for creating knowledge waned, and IITs became more or less like polytechnics, concentrating on invention rather than discovery.
There is also a parallel with the earlier creation of CSIR and "National Institutes" under it. There was a mass exodus of brilliant academics from universities to CSIR, and an initial spurt of laudable scientific activity. Universities were, however, impoverished. With passing of years, CSIR waned because of lack of academic support. CSIR also suffered and continues to suffer because of the unnatural yoking together of "science" and "industrial research", the latter being actually technology development.
Technology development, of course, requires strong inputs from academic institutions, viz universities, but the two types of activities and institutions are best kept separated.

RamiReddy 04/10/2011 - 11:15am

NRN is very right,this was bound to happen. Ramiah,Special Coaching centre,etc. coached people only to get into IIT's but not to apply their brain.IIT's have just become a mockery step in ones career,by providing a degree and gateway to USA. This is done by all Engg. colleges too.

Srinivasa 04/10/2011 - 07:25am

Its more than 100% right. When a machine is wrongly designed and produce a product, we get wrong product. But , if a teacher is wrong the generations effect, this is what happened to out IIT's. It was a slow and steady effect of the quality of teachers and affinity to teach effectively has brought this effect. Only the real merit should control teaching and students entering to IIT's, neither government nor the politicians "Particularly POLITICIANS" should be out of IIT's.

Ravindranath Adibhatla 04/10/2011 - 04:41am

The ability to understand complex systems depends on the the appreciation of speaking and writing a language correctly, whether it is English or any regional language. In the "IT" age in which Mr.Murthy is a pioneer, communication in any form, a path of least resistance, is put on a pedastal. The difference between a nation and a great nation is the importance it pays to its literature in its purity- so how do we go about it?

Kamath 03/10/2011 - 10:47pm

NR Narayana Murthy is absolutely right. There must be a constant vigilence to keep the qualituy io IIt or any other institution ship shape.

Indian 03/10/2011 - 10:45pm

Very Poor observation by N. R. Narayana Murthy.I don't accept the explanation that coaching centers are the reason for 80 per cent of students from for not performing well..
The main reason is once the student gets into IIT he does not put the same effort he has put to get into the IIT.

srini 03/10/2011 - 10:36pm

With all due respect, I completely disagree with you. I don't think the problem is with the entrance selection method but it's what happens afterwards. As of today one has to work hard for years to get through the entrance. And anyone who did that deserves as much as someone who is born talented.

sasha 03/10/2011 - 05:55pm

Mr. NR N Murthy's comments regarding the IIT students low level in education and not having good command over the English language, is an insult for those who come from not so famous schools or colleges. All can't afford St. Stephens or St Xaviers education. The truth is that these students who come from low level schools and colleges are the real brain merchants in the IIT fields everywhere. We read that the IIT has opened its institute in China where it will accommodate 10,000 candidates and will teach and train the Chinese students. Are the Chinese good in the English language or will the training be done in the Chinese language ? Will the Indian students get to study there ? IIT can play a great role if only they concentrated in rural areas as well, instead of only having their institutes in high profile metros and other neighbouring countries.